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Not sure how it will scale compared to Wars(though we know most crafter stuff is subpar to drops and these are only blues)

Still looks pretty good to me

Saw these in the beta forums. I have never seen sooo MUCH defence on high armor leather. I u ask me they are pushing for more bear tanks :)

Pattern: Heavy Clefthoof Boots

requires friendly to buy

requires LW 355 to make

blue, 180 armor, 37 stam, +24 defense, yellow/blue socket (+3 dodge rating socket bonus)

4 Heavy Knothide Leather, 20 Thick Clefthoof Leather, 4 Primal Earth, 2 Rune Thread

Pattern: Heavy Clefthoof Leggings

requires honored to buy

requires LW 355 to make

blue, 229 armor, 42 stam, +34 defense, two blue, one yellow sockets (+4 dodge rating socket bonus)

6 Heavy Knothide Leather, 34 Thick Clefthoof Leather, 4 Primal Earth, 2 Rune Thread

Pattern: Heavy Clefthoof Vest

requires honored to buy

requires LW 360 to make

blue, 263 armor, 52 stam, +28 defense, two yellow, one blue sockets (+4 dodge rating socket bonus)

6 Heavy Knothide Leather, 40 Thick Clefthoof Leather, 4 Primal Earth, 2 Rune Thread

Set bonus for all three: Strength of the Clefthoof, requires LW 350 - +20 strength.

More leather

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1420/feralgearsb4.jpg

Druid Q+A(long)

Are hunters overpowered in beta?

Yes, but as normal there is a measure of playskill associated with the type of server the hunter's appear to originate from. PvP hunters seem to simply have faster response times, and are more adaptive increasing their lethality and conservation of motion.

Are Druids overpowered in beta?

No, but I feel as though I have been placed upon a competitive plane with my peers.

Are warlocks overpowered in beta?

I'm no longer scared of them as I once was.

Rage cost of mangle?

20 rage (15 with talent - idol of brutality does not affect this)

45 energy (40 with talent - 37 with idol of ferocity) (sorry about the mix up >_<)

What about the AQ 20 books? do we need those to train the new talents?

no, those are all trainable from a trainer

Where do I find Sedai?

East of the Draenai temple in the Hellfire Peninsula. It's very close (almost visible) up on a small rise, near some boars. he has a '?' above him. he is also going to be the mankrik's wife of burning cursade.

also, i am sorry to report... sedai didn't make it.

Can you kill a warlock with treants alone?

1. seeing as you can't kill a warlock with treants and the druid... i don't see how the treants would stand a cahnce. they don't do that much damage, and stamn is going up. but none of a warlocks 41 points can kill us by themselves.

2. Treants are a hinderance and have more functionality in PvE than in PvP. Although they make for a nice harrassment, many treat them simply as a low damage dot, which may provide a minor annoyance when attempting to cast spells.

How is balance druid itemization?

1. not to bad. there's a moonkin helm that you get from a quest. hard to say so far, but sockets help a bit. you just get leather with int that you add spell damage to

2. Within a level or two I had a green/blue balance set which enabled me to outdps an equivalent level mage more substantially geared from the old world.

How different is honor intake now? How much honor do you get for an HK, a flag cap, a tower cap, etc?

The new honor system is a thing of beauty. Honor is variable based upon level to level and rank to rank relationships, with normal diminishing returns for successive kills. However, it accumulates over time and Honor Marks may be saved for truly substantial rewards.

Every zone has some form of pvp objective. While taking the objective grants no honor, it provides a zone wide damage increase (+5% normally), and opens up reward vendors, quest npcs with pvp specific rewards/xp.

What's the threat formula of lacerate, is lacerate affected by AP?

1. not sure. but it's instant. and it scales. lacerate is good

2. I do not have the exact formulas, but I may hold aggro against a fury warrior or a rogue using sunder armor with no problem.

if mangle bear have threat modifier?

i seem to think ... yes. but not sure. either way, it's an instant attack with extra damage. it's really really good (and cool for burst damage in PVP if you maul + mangle together).

All druid CC, cyclone, pounce, root, bash, maim, any of them have shared diminish return?

1. as far as i've seen no, but no one is high enough level for cyclone yet. (level cap is 67)

i'd imagine our stuns (pounce and bash) would share diminsihing returns, but you can test this in live

cyclone has no cooldown though, neither does pounce. since when has root had a cool down?

the only one is bash.

2. Not that I recall on those of equivalent level.

what effect does cyclone count, stun? incap? Isn't cyclone dispellable? what happens when a cycloned target have DoT? can you heal the cycloned target?

from screenshots available it appears not to be any of the 4 dispellable types

Can I be tamed by a hunter?

no but *spoiler warning*

*spoiler warning*

*spoiler warning*

there is a 5 man instance where you must free 4 druids

one of the druids was tamed in bear form and is trapped as a hunter pet

Is Wrath of Cenarius calculated after Moonfury (which, incidentally, is confirmed to be calculated after spelldamage gear now) or are the two calculations kept separate?

wrath of cenarius is calculated after all your +spell damage affects are applied. this means groupbuffs, trinkets, etc help it

not sure wether this is before or after moonfury. someone said moonfury scales but it seemde incidental. (NOT VERIFIED)

What exactly has been changed with Pounce?

3 second stun. improved bash helps pounce

pounce is now a 10 yard range and can be used from any direction

this means you can actually pounce someone casting without following them like a full, and you can pounce flag runners

pounce scales with attack power as well.

combined with maim (which does not break on bleeds), cyclone, roots, etc. druids get a fair amount of control over their hapless prey, and can protect themselves for windows were you'd want to shift form (and cyclone)

all in all, pounce is more pounce like

Does Swipe scale with AP?

i have also heard yes. *fingers crossed*

Does Rake scale with AP?

yes.

Is it possible to go out of combat and re-stealth from a Cyclone?

is it possible to do it with roots, polymorph, etc. (Needs to be verified)

Does furor work with the same 'quasi' delay that it has had since they 'fixed' it 2 months ago?

not sure

Does casting in moonkin form still reset the swing timer?

yes

Do roots hold other players any better than they do now?

1. no noticable diffrence. roots seems like a good PVE DoT now though. new talents aren't in yet, so there's no 'bramble'

2. Eh, no signficant change. Still one of my primary complaints

What details can you give us about how they've made BC more "hybrid friendly"?

1. you've seen the talent tree. also, there are 2 arena sets. one is a spell damage leather set,. one is a feral set with a lot of +healing. palidans and shamans also get 2 sets. everyone else gets one. nice

all sets are 5 piece with a 4 piece bonus. balance set bonus: -10% cost of moonfire. feral/resto: +15% movement speed in feral forms. yes. it's back. beware

2. I have tanked every major instance (5 mans) for my level with only another druid healing. Healers revel in our ILOTP for the assistance it's healing ability adds to mitigating melee classes damage. My dps is competitive against other melee classes and I provide a great amount of damage in one moment, and then can shift gear and have 10K mana to heal the next boss fight so our adaptability remains a primary strength.

How much damage on average does it (mangle) do in pvp?

1. there has been very little PVP. i don't know what 'it' is but DPS metres aren't currently working

2. My dps is outstanding as a feral druid critting routinely between 1400-2000 on mangles. As a balance druid I was competitive against an equivalently geared / levelled mage. My druidic sister that I run with is our sole healer, and she has sustained us victoriously through every major instance

Can you post a log of shred and mangle, alternating throughout the battle?

*Please list your gear you're currently using..

mangle > shred IMO. in raids it's a tough call. 37 energy > 48 energy. if the over poweredshred idol was stillin the game, this would not be the case.

Do you notice the -15% aoe reduction or the 15% crit? do you notice natural weapons?

it's all in your head man. all in your head.

Does the -15% aoe reduction work on skills as priest scream and howl of terror?

yes.

Does lifebloom have a global cooldown?

yes. otherwise you could apply 3 HoTs in 0 seconds with a macro.

Have you noticed alot of +strength on armor, or is it more geared toward +AP?

1. there's a lot of stats on the 'feral' pieces, but rogues are getting attack power on things.

2. Agility only gives 1 attack power - NOT 2.

Have you gotten to the arena quest? the blood circle or whatever, with the +300 ap feral staff. I need to know how hard the quest is, I'm looking forward to doing it. Its in nagrand I believe.

i have not done the chain yet but it's supposed to be the most fun quest chain in the game right now

it is hard. you need to be level 65. it's 'the arena' quest. you and a group of people take on 'arena groups'

it's also a chain everyone will do in a group

very cool. you'll get your silly staff, no worries.

Are there any upgrades for the mid level blue & purple tanking gear I seem stuck with? like warden staff?

nothing to date however, every item has almost double the stamina and (by nature of higher level) more armour. what this means is tanking gear, of all things, is going to get old the fastest. while casters and priests can rock a lot of tier 2 most of the grind, tanks will be replacing dreadnaught with greens. it is funny and sad.

I have replaced AQ40 purples with greens and blues.. Standby. I snicker every day at the dramallamas on my home forums and the the thought of watching their epeens shrivel when their almighty 10 hours a day raid gear is replaced

BC druid pics and numbers

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...83787&sid=1

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Druid yummies to come....havent gone through them all but OMGWTFHI2U

Staves:

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=4502

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=5900

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=810

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=1160

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=2086

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=5556

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=7212

Quested Ones:

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=3267

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=3520

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=4438

Maces:

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=913

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=7459

Moonkins Too:

Staves:

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=927

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=3843

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=756

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=4720

Quested:

http://thottbot.com/beta?i=360

Maces:

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=7100

Daggers:

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=928

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=3844

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=3511

Quested:

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=3142

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=4689

Off-Hands:

http://www.thotbott.com/beta?i=930

http://www.thotbott.com/beta?i=3845

http://www.thotbott.com/beta?i=3271

http://www.thotbott.com/beta?i=3272

Quested:

http://www.thotbott.com/beta?i=535

FURRY Feathery Bears and Cats and Moonkins Rejoice!!!

Head:

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?f=a;loc=Head;...=;e=;sort=level

Quested:

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=407

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=558

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=2182

Chests:

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?f=a;loc=Chest...=;e=;sort=level

Quested:

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=4344

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=3413

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=2125

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=1964

Legs:

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?f=a;loc=Legs;...=;e=;sort=level

Quested:

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=564

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=3603

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=6890

Crafted Leatherworking

Strength of the Clefthoof set:

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=3453

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=3420

http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=403

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Pfft to HWL weapons for Druids.....

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o87/Dre...rian-hammer.jpg

Though Its another rep grind....more than likely comparable to Cenarion.

And some more Feral PvP action

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=30526

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You hear about the changes?

Mangle:

+30%dmg to bleed effects (up from 25%), more base dmg, increases dmg of shred too.

Imp shred talents are now -9e/-18e

druids can eat, drink, bandage in feral forms now

weapon enchants can proc now

weapon abilities can proc now

*snap!*

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Yeah forgot bout those, proc in forms and pot in forms is really nice.

Also there is a "bug" with thorns that the mob takes dmg when gettin hit AND when hitting. Scuttlebutt is Blizz is testing viability so gettin bramblers may actually be worth the points,

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Forgot bout this thread hehe

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2954/bearzh3.jpg

Dire Bear Form

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7245/direbearhe0.jpg

Improved Moonfire (reduced to 2 ranks )

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4959/impmoonfireke1.jpg

Improved Starfire (modifier for barkskin added )

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2248/impstarfirets0.jpg

Update

Naturing Instinct ( changed to a passive )

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/5687/na...instincthu9.jpg

Insect Swarm ( damage buffed )

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/368/insectswarmbj7.jpg

Update

Feline Swiftness ( bear/dire bear added )

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/5354/fe...wiftnesski7.jpg

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