Oriahtundra Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Let the Druids tank In Burning crusade beta Feral Druids have the following advantages over Protection Warriors: 1. Far Superior Aggro generation, both snap and long term. (IN BETA, NO CURRENT GAME ARGUMENTS) 2. A ton more HP. 3. A ton more armor. 4. A truckload more DPS than a Prot warrior. While tanking. 5. A superior mutitarget attack. 6. A permanent HOT for around 700+ self heals at endgame levels. 7. A 5% crit party buff with permanent HOT. 8. A debuff that increases bleed damage for the whole raid. 9. Cannot be polymorphed. 10. An on command charge with no stance requirement. 11. Superior Dodge with the new +4% talent 12. Far superior rage generation. 13. Far cheaper rage costs on abilities. 14. A root (natures grasp) castable in forms. 15. A self heal in bear form. It does figure that Blizz buffs feral so much when Im in love with balance now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionas Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I'm getting worried... the Druid Resto tree is flawless (IMO)... and now the Feral tree sounds uber... are we the next class to be eventually nerfed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martok Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 HAH Don't make any more of our warriors jealous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amahli Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Holy moly. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriahtundra Posted November 14, 2006 Author Share Posted November 14, 2006 Oh and isnt is great we are finally getting to be even on the playing field and now the cries of overpowered are beginning to be heard now that we arent a free HK anymore..... ###### them its our turn dammit. Though i have seen it stated that some BC wars are running around with 16k hp O-o but no ss's to prove it. Oh and these are the clips to back the OP comments( notice the 4k FB crit hehehe) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9108857094706583491 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-638625748841695825 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3142251177050526207 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoach Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Eh, I think that it was the developers' intention to make the flexibility of a druid their strength, not an ability to overpower any class in its own specialization. I could definitely understand not letting a druid be able to tank better than a warrior or out-dps a rogue. My two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molox Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Warriors can parry and block still, which lets them take less damage not sure if a druid can parry but i know they can't block. Plus the raid gear for druids is all +healing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriahtundra Posted November 14, 2006 Author Share Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) Each has thier owns strengths but Druids will no longer be considered a 2nd class tank replacement. We can already tank good but in BC the field will be alot more even. Ever not able to find a tank or heard bout people calling a raid because there isnt enough warriors, that will be a thing of the past. Plus being able to pot/bandage/weapon procs in forms etc, jsut eveything that should have been since day 1. People say OP, its stuff being fixed that has always been broken. Not saying Druid will be better or will totally replace, but Im sure a war gets tired of only being a tank all the time. And any tank is only as good as their healers anyways :lol: Not all +healing Itemization is MUCH better in BC(healbot/nuke/melee tier 4 :drool:) http://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1168 Edited November 14, 2006 by Oriahtundra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scryll Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Eh, I think that it was the developers' intention to make the flexibility of a druid their strength, not an ability to overpower any class in its own specialization. I could definitely understand not letting a druid be able to tank better than a warrior or out-dps a rogue. My two cents. I don't really want them to flat out-tank warriors, either. I wanted them and warriors to have different styles of tanking, anda mix encounters which suited one particular style over another, not just the odd gimmick encounter like Jin'do. As for out-dpsing a rogue, meh. Take a number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roh Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Out DPSing a rogue without AoE? Hehe, a bad rogue maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendes Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Just being able to use things in forms will be a godsend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriahtundra Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share Posted November 15, 2006 Indeed, now if they d give balance as much love as they have the other trees( not so sure bout this Meleekin Shammy wanna be crap) wed be golden. I think the itemization will make the game open up alot more. Sockets etc, Do the instance and let the war DPS if he wants Druid tank/Pally tank Druid DPS etc etc. Seriously making me reconsider adding a pally to my flock after I hit 70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houli Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) bad news druid'ites... Drysc * 56. Re: Druids and noggenfogger | 11/15/2006 10:14:04 PM PST ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q u o t e: I believe Drysc made a mistake in that sense. Consumables, at least some consumables are able to be used in Feral forms. http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=6686 http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=2720 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There was a brief period of time on the beta where certain consumables were flagged as usable in some forms, and that has since been reversed. -Drysc NO PROCS OR POTS IN FORMS gg. but...mebbe this will make you feel beter, SEAL DANCE FTW! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...d+Cat&hl=en Edited November 16, 2006 by Houli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriahtundra Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 Figures blizz...... wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriahtundra Posted November 16, 2006 Author Share Posted November 16, 2006 And ILotP nerfed Barkskin reduction nerfed, procs pots etc in forms nerfed. Probably some other stuff but i jsut got on the forum.....WTF Blizz....Damn my ass hurts...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorrin Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Yes Druids you can tank..oh right, did we forget to mention that like us you will now be tanking the nerf bat too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriahtundra Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 Guess it was inevitable, Crusader Strike got nerfed for pallies and other stuff for the other classes Im sure. ###### you BLIZZ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriahtundra Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) And yeah and nuturing instinct nerf max of 50% now .... nerfbat crits you for 13371337 you die And 1 second cooldown added to all shapeshifting And what gets me is it was stated as a bug by the Devs(pots and such in form) Then WTF are you making stuff like this for? http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=6686 http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=2720 Edited November 17, 2006 by Oriahtundra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relikk Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I am being outsourced again damnit!!! *Packs bags and heads off to India* Rel ps I heard warriors were getting hit hard too, we are apparently doing much better than anticipated. We all know what that means... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriahtundra Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Thinking bout the DPS testing they were doing and I should have realized that = nerf to anything that is OPed in any area over another class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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