Tazmira Siannodel Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Hello All, Last 2 days we ahve tried tog et grps together and they have failed. I want to know when a good time is for allt he officer to have a meeting and talk. The guild is doing more arguing then pulling together. I believe as officers we should try and pull the guild together and work as a team. Plz post here when a good time for you to be on. Taz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblebore Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 These are my current times where I can be on to meet. I may be able to meet later, but it will be on a case by case basis. All times are Pacific Time M - 3:30 - 8:00 PM T - 3:30 - 8:00 PM W - 3:30 - 6:30 PM TH - 3:30 - 6:30 PM F - 3:30 - Late S - 7:00 AM - 11:00 PM Sun - 1:30 - 7:00 PM A side issue, but perhaps related to this topic. I have received a complaint from a Guild member (Sam for now) against another member (Bill for now) for what I will call insensitivity and perhaps as bad as rude behaviour. In a nutshell, while the members of the 2 groups who went to Chardok today went to recover Omega's corpse, Sam announced AFK and when he came back, he found everyone had left him and he was being attacked. He did manage to escape without dying. When he addressed Bill about being left behind/abandened, Bill (who apparently was the unofficial grouping leader) who led the group back for Omegas Corpse, was said to have said essentially - "Oh well. Tough Luck". While I got al this from Sam's mouth while in game, both Qque and Tazmira were present at the grouping. Why Sam didn't address them I cannot say. My opinion is that while Bill leaving a guildy behind is inappropriate, Sam had recourse immediately available to address the matter. However, I promised to bring this up. Tazmira and I talked about things from what she remembered and I think it is just a process of people learning to work TOGETHER better. I think that is part of what Qque and Tazmira wish to bring up. I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldoran Nobleheart Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 ok this is officer forum only a few of us have access who is Sam and Bill. next we do need an officer meeting but u need to know what the best time for everyone is!! I dont wanna have one and only have 2 or 3 show up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saite Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 I have friday and saturday off this week, I dont know what it will be next week yet. So if you try and set one on one these days this week, I will more than likely be able to attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qque Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 I am available anytime after 5pm central mon-fri and after 8pm on sat sun. I will go ahead and say the Sam and Bill are none other than Bordun and Ardrek. I spoke with Bordun and he is ready to leave us because of this. No he should not have left for such a long period, but he should not have been left behind. I do not know who was charging this raid but do know i was invited by Ardrek to come over. On another note..... I have never recieved any of this "attitude", but have observed several acts of "attitude" in nonguild groups from Ardrek. I know he has been in and out of this guild several times. Based on this i think i would be more willing to address the issues consernig Ardrek at this time. He has the personality that I think will take this a personal threat directed at him.....he will get rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblebore Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Qque is correct about Bill and Sam and who they are. I would tend to agree with Qque about Ardrek. My few experiences with him would also make me believe his reaction to any corrective words or actions will probably produce a negative response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Votive Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Ardrek over the time I have come to know him has a very very "defensive" personality. I remember we invited him into a guild group a while back that was composed of all officers. He came in at the tail end of the conversation in which we had wraped up discussing someone and felt that we were talking about him and immediatley removed himself from group... We explained we had nothing talking about him and he rejoined. Also, during our first venture into hate, I had said something directly after he did about someone breaking mezes... which in all honesty wasnt directed at him personally but directed at the raid party as a whole and to those specifically who were breaking them. Immediatley I was given a tell from him asking if I had a problem with him... knowing how he was, I just ignored it, but he persisted. We had our words and ended it at that. So, in addition to the fact he is "defensive", I also feel that he thinks everyone is out to get him. So my words to you all are be wary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saite Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 I have on several occasions sent Ardrek tells asking him to please to cease his language and behavior in guild chat. He ignored me completely and kept on going. There was one night that he was yelling at anyone and everyone and cussing them out left and right. The topic at hand in guild chat at the time was not even about him but he was convinced that it was. If we were to corner him and confront him, I do honestly think he would become very irate and tell us about of things about our aunts and uncles that I honestly do not want to hear. He is extrememly irrational at times and will not listen to reason.... Sorry, thats my 2 copper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qque Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 I am not sure how you are (maybe the military background in me) but if I hear of him disrespecting other members or an officer I will be the first to step in and hush him. The way he has come and gone from this guild makes it sound as though he is removable and expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saite Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 I have tried to hush him, as I said in my earlier post. I sent him several tells and he ignored me and kept on complaining about what he thought was us cutting him down. I was one of the officers that Votive mentioned that was in a group when he joined and he did become very irate when he thought we were discussing him. Why he would think we would discuss him in the open with him there, I do not know. But he was not even the subject that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldoran Nobleheart Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 behavior such as this would be grouonds for /guildremove. I trust all of ur decisions in any matter. So with that being said i will talk to him and get things straight, if that doesnt work. Then i will move on to plan B!!!! Plan B!!!! We put Votive in a skirt and aloow him to draw him in the open!!! then we all jump out from under Votives skirt and give him a flogging!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saite Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 That will have to be a one big skirt for all of us to fit under...hmmm. Hey, maybe he can borrow Hud's kilt for awhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Votive Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 I dont know... I make an ugly woman... But... if its for the best... /sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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