Guild Meeting 4/6/03

[Lotara]

This is the log from the SLoT Guild Meeting on April 6, 2003 that has been edited to remove none Guild chatter and noise. Zannette

The following people attended at least part of the meeting: Aeeodar, Aldurian, Altarial, Auranova, Babsor, Bucephalus, Daulton, Droodles, Dylinii, Eldoran, Gorrek, Growle, Hinil, Kaab, Kirsty, Krislor, Lukiee, Mcmikahl, Mourtimer, Nadannu, Ninye, Nurlaten, Proximo, Reznor, Shansa, Stafano, Synthia, Tudor, Wallorn, Whitdoc, Zannette, Ziam, and Zymmit

[sun Apr 06 14:12:06 2003] Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'im thinking of boosting raids up to 4 a week does anyone see a problem with that?'

Proximo tells slotfuture:2, 'just wether or not enough people can make it to them to make them worth while...'

Ziam says, 'I cannot attend any during th week'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'can i make 1 comment semi related to this topic?'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'yes Dault'

Reznor tells the guild, 'Sorry i am late...omw to WC'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'we can have as many raids as we want, but in the end unless people decide which char they are going to play, and dedicate themselves to that char, we will never get any very good raids off'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'aye that is a topic i am join to discuss'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'i just feel that has a relation to a raid schedule because we eventually want to raid better places and we need people to lvl up in order to do this'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'i am going to lead one raid a week starting next week'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, 'i think scheduling the right time will determine the success of raids.. in terms of attendence'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'i agree to be able to have successful raids we must be higher'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'we have the numbers, just not the levels'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'I am trying to get higher'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'aye Kris u are'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'that is why I stress guild groups'

Gorrik tells slotfuture:2, 'all depends on the objective of the raid'

Auranova tells slotfuture:2, 'Maybe the next few weeks of raids should focus on exp groups to get this objective taken care of.'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'i am always in a group with at least three guildies'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'never any less'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'I usually dont care what the raid or objective is, I just like hanging out with my guild members. Lets me get to know all of you better'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'i never get guild groups...I am singled out cause I am not well adorned'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'Can we get back to eldy's explaining what's going on, it will be open forum later'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'OK guys and gals this is a meeting, please keep side comments to a minimum'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'i will be honest, i rarely get a guild group, and when i do, it doesnt seem to work out that well, the best groups i have been getting lately are pick up groups, and thats not a good thing'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'ok lets get back to topic'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'guild raids'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'a list of vots here would u like three raids a week or four'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, '3'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'What kind of time during day are we talking here?'

Witdoc tells slotfuture:2, '3'

Mcmikahl tells slotfuture:2, 'either for me,will attend as i can for as long as i can'

Proximo tells slotfuture:2, 'well, the more raids there are, the less time we have to gain lvls'

Hinil tells slotfuture:2, 'personally 3 atm cause I am working on farming'

Valetorix tells slotfuture:2, '4'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'I vote for 4'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, '3, one during week, 2 on weekends'

Synthania tells slotfuture:2, '3 a week '

Mourtimer tells slotfuture:2, '3'

Zymmit tells slotfuture:2, 'i would recomend 3 since we need to lvl'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'four and attend three'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, '3'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, '3, lets not get too crazy, gotta start somewhere'

Kirsty tells slotfuture:2, '3'

Kaab tells slotfuture:2, '3'

Nadannu tells slotfuture:2, '3'

Auranova tells slotfuture:2, '3'

Aaeodar tells slotfuture:2, '3 will be good .'

Bucephalus tells slotfuture:2, '3 one on wknight 2 on wknd'

Droodles tells slotfuture:2, '3'

Tudor tells slotfuture:2, '3 as people have other things in EQ they need to get done'

Shansa tells slotfuture:2, '3 is a good start'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'ok threes have it'

[sun Apr 06 14:21:30 2003] Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'i will lead one a week and Nurlaten will also lead one'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'I vote for 4'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'whaty i am looking for is for someone to lead a third'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'if u feel u are qualified please talk with me after meeting'

Mcmikahl tells slotfuture:2, 'i will assist in leading...i am not comfortable leading alone'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'ill let u take me to cb and if u can keep me alive we will talk haha'

Aaeodar tells slotfuture:2, 'lol'

Hinil tells slotfuture:2, 'I dont think an army could keep you alive Eldy'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, 'back on track plz =) '

Nadannu tells slotfuture:2, 'i have seen him die in crushbone, its not pretty'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'also as of raiding i plan on taking u all to new places'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'i would also like u all to get ur HS key as well'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'so if u wanna concentrate on that this month when ur not working on lvling that would be great'

Tudor raises his hand.

Hinil tells slotfuture:2, 'we would need ppl to constantly camp the chancellor in LoIO for that hehe'

Mourtimer tells the guild, 'Chancellor is cake ..not a prob'

Tudor tells slotfuture:2, 'what about doing some flags for the planes?'

Witdoc tells slotfuture:2, 'they sell cheap in the bazaar all the time'

Gorrik tells slotfuture:2, 'flags group lvl 60'

Zymmit tells slotfuture:2, 'can i ask a question other than this one?'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'yes we are definitely not high enough for trials'

Wallorn tells slotofficers:1, 'all the damn guards keep attacking me?!'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'One thing about raiding new places is in order to move up to pop and luclin zones, we need to farm tov, in order to get to tov, we all need kael armor, moving up as a raiding guild takes a lot of time'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'exactly nurl'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'agree Nurl ill be taking folks to kael alot i know the place well'

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Eldoran tells the guild, 'Welcome Synthania'

Synthania has joined your guild.

Synthania is now a regular member of your guild.

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'ok lets move to my next topic'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'Alts'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'this is a very touchy subject for alot of people but this is something we need to adress and it needs to go into effect starting today'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'ok ill explain it and u can ask questions after i do'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'We are gonna move to where u can have a max if two alts in guild if u have two accounts that would make it 4 alts we have way to many people who have alts in the guild and do not play those alts'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'that is why when i bring up a guild list i getv 150 people in guild'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'why not just make it a level requirement before you even bring in yer alt?'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'does everytone understand the rule?'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'yes'

Ziam says, 'Aye'

Reznor tells slotfuture:2, 'yes'

Lukiee tells slotfuture:2, 'yep'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'i agree with stafano'

Synthania tells slotfuture:2, 'yes'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'yes'

Mourtimer tells slotfuture:2, 'yepr'

Ninye tells slotfuture:2, 'yes'

Hinil tells slotfuture:2, 'sure'

Kaab tells slotfuture:2, 'yes'

Tudor tells slotfuture:2, 'yuppers'

Babsor tells slotfuture:2, 'yes'

Aaeodar tells slotfuture:2, 'yes '

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'it will most likly change to that but for now it gonna be down to two alts to clean up the list some'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, 'yes'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'then we will institue a new alt lvl requirment for bringing new alts in'

Witdoc tells slotfuture:2, 'we choice and remove the alts right'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'if u have an alt in the guild at this time and u would like it removed please send me a tell'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'it works'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'also i would like to get everyone to register on www.pgoh.org/eq'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'and www.guildmagic.com'

Growle tells slotfuture:2, 'i would like to make a suggestion'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'speaking of pgoh.org that is a invaluable toolk that we have and i cannot by the life of me understand why people are not using it'

Synthania tells slotfuture:2, 'lol I love it (if yall havent noticed already) hehehe '

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'I am registered on 1 of them'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'go ahead Growle'

Mourtimer tells slotfuture:2, 'because I tried to sign up 3 times can not get a password'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'did u answer ur email and click the link?'

Ktarl says out of character, 'Anyone willing to SOW a kitty and a Human?'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'On T.H.E. it only recognizes one ISP account so if you have two EQ accounts with same web address it will only recognize one of them, the first one'

Growle tells slotfuture:2, 'ok this is what im thinking so that we will not have a hard time grouping.. i think it would be better for us to lock our levels at 55-60 and do our AA's since the big ones who reach 60 and above seem to leave because they cannot find a decent guild grp'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'My thoughts too Growl'

Mourtimer tells slotfuture:2, 'Yepr'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'Good idea'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'i plan on doing aas once i get to 60 anyway'

Hinil tells slotfuture:2, 'working on it lol'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'and help those under 55 to get there'

Growle tells slotfuture:2, 'yeah we should follow dat.. shawdar and soltek left bec they where too high for us already'

Mourtimer tells slotfuture:2, 'Forget the AA just lvl we need 60+ Char'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'I heard they left cause SLoT couldnt kill the epic piece for rogue on the last raid'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'no we were too low for them'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'that is what they told me'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'they have no ill feelings towards slot, so don't believe otherwise'

Growle tells slotfuture:2, 'well i dont think 55-60 is bad we get decent spells at these levels and still are able to grp with felow guildies.. not all of us have the time to level up fast some are left behind so AA is like waiting for them to level'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'is meeting over?'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'well i am lvl 60 and on my 8th AA point, i worked real hard to get here, and i guess i am wondering how long it will take for me to have good raiding groups in this guild?'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, '*cough*...everyone awake...ok good'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'i hope to be where you stand, Daulton, as soon as i can'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'although i guess 2 clerics can't really do much together'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'But don't forget to help others reach that goal too'

Gorrik tells slotfuture:2, 'i can join you dault. i just need to get off my duff and stop fooling around with kael armor quests'

Mourtimer tells slotfuture:2, 'I agree Dault ...seems I've wasted alot of time messing around'

Mcmikahl tells slotfuture:2, 'working on it also'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'they can power level the tanks'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'hehe and i noticed you are moving up nicely alyt'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'err alt'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'i am striving to get to 60 to get aego to help on raids'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'don't just concentrate on yourself, but help other guildies'

Synthania tells slotfuture:2, 'I agree Zannette'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'we are a guild, not a bunch of people'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'well i feel i do my part for the guild as well, but i cannot take their passwords and play their chars for them'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, '1 think is that u can work on ur aas while u grp with guildies that are lower lvl then u....'

Bucephalus tells slotfuture:2, 'been trying to advance this char in as many ways as I can , i ask most itmes i log in and can stay on if i can join stuff, too often i have heard that groups are full or in the zone too far or that i remain too low, what do you suggest?'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'not what I mean, but others don't worry about guildmates, only themselves'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'I agree I know I have done more than my fair share along with Dault for the guild'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'guys lets get back on topics'

Mourtimer tells slotfuture:2, 'I also feel that I've helped who ever I can when ever I can ...but I don't feel that helps us get char to work to lvl'

Lukiee tells slotfuture:2, 'agree'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'i only have a few more things i wish to cover then i want to open it up for discussion and do an epic kill if all are willing to go'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'I just find it kind of frustrating when facts be given among assumptions when peeps begin to take things personal and leave ...ie Galdin Makk '

Mourtimer tells slotfuture:2, 'the personallity clashes will alwys happen ... no biggie there imo'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'actually i only have one more ting to add'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'true'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'then when we help some attain epics they just get up and go so I am reluctant to help those '

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'I want SLoT to really become something here for far too long have we become a stepping stone to Formiddable and a few other guilds it is time that we step from the shadows and do something with ourselves and if we all work together we can do that sure its gonna take some work but i think we have the peolple to do it'

Growle tells slotfuture:2, 'first thing we have to do is not lose anymore members.. thats the most impt'

Nadannu tells slotfuture:2, 'I think we do as well'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'and i dont know how u guys feel but im tired of getting a guild their epic to only have them go somewhere else'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'yep that is why I dont help sometimes'

Nadannu tells slotfuture:2, 'Im not leaving'

Kaab tells slotfuture:2, 'Yes. and I'm not leaving either'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'you can't know who is going to leave though.. so not helping does not show unity'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'I am going nowhere'

Tudor tells slotfuture:2, 'but realize that not everyone is going to leave when they get it'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'so far we are 1 for about 6'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'And lastly i KNOW deep in my heart that we can get together and do immeasurable things if we only all try and i mean REALLY TRY!!!!!!'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'aye Dault'

Stafano tells the guild, 'Not exactly...if there was a trial period in recruiting then that would eliminate the thought of even trying to attempt to attain epic until others are fully comfortable knowing who thier loyal guildmates are and who isnt'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'that is truel.. in my former guild we had to wait 90 days before we could ask for epic help'

Mcmikahl tells slotfuture:2, 'i am going to ask that if you are in a group/raid that you don't try to take control of it from the leader,it only makes confusion and leads to a wipeout'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'so not participating in an epic fight does not necessarily mean you do not show unity'

Tudor tells slotfuture:2, 'there is it's no epics for 30 days'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'i mean look at what we have here do a /who all sacred ull get 34 people here what i fine bunch of folks we have'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, '90 days seems good to me'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'yeah i didn't think it was unfair'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'I count 35, what happened to the other one Eldy?'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'and if they want to wait the 90 days, then that shows that they will be lolay'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'loyal'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'I like the 90 day rule'

Aaeodar tells slotfuture:2, 'aye 90 days is good .'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'ok 90 days it is'

Synthania tells slotfuture:2, 'aye 90 days works '

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'that is silly no offense waiting is fine but u cant put a day limit on a mans loyalty. Mean betray after years of loyal service to all alot of things. Think about it. Sorry that my first commment is negative but I dont usually say much'

Eldoran tells slotofficers:1, 'ok this is a touchy subject but i want everyones honest oppion'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'U have to feel him out the best u can'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'agreed wally, the people who got their epics and left all would have qualified for the 90 day rule'

Aaeodar tells slotfuture:2, 'aye '

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'All that have left with epic were here for a long time, atleast 6 months, and we aren't getting new recruits there epics immediatly'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'yes sir Dault and I never thought they would leave'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'me either'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'But no Cleric has his/her epic yet'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'true we all seem to be stuck on the same mobs'

Auranova tells slotfuture:2, 'There were other issues too in some cases, I'm sure'

Nadannu tells slotfuture:2, 'i am 3 fights away from mine'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'np Wally but dont criticize others for not participating if they choose not too because of that...I mean I have been in SLoT for some time now and I attending some raids not all but never were any of them beneficial to me in any way...always to others and others who were beneficial to it has left....nonetheless i am still with SLoT'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, 'setting this "rule" only set in stone something that is already there.. I have seen a few guys asking for epic help that have been in the guild for less time then me'

Daulton tells slotfuture:2, 'true,staf/zanthissar really has never asked for anything in guild, but has given alot'

Witdoc tells slotfuture:2, 'i have a question about the loot give outs on raids'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'There is an epic topic on the website'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'Sorry Staf i wasnt critizing. Just pointing out a fact'

Auranova tells slotfuture:2, 'I have to go all. Could someone update me later. McM?'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'U too have a point'

Mcmikahl tells slotfuture:2, 'the log of meeting will be posted aura'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'yes zannette wil post log'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'np Wally...just wanted to point out facts and make opinions be understandable by others wasnt picking on ya or anything =)'

Auranova tells slotfuture:2, 'Ok, sorry, but have prearranged appointment.'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'ok Aura thanks for your time'

Mcmikahl tells slotfuture:2, 'thankyou for coming aura'

Zymmit tells slotfuture:2, 'well even though those who have left we long term members.... the 90 day rule does still keep ppl from just looking at slot to get thier epic and leave... although it doesnt slove the problem, it is a good deterant from doing epics just for them to leave'

Witdoc tells slotfuture:2, 'are we going by point system for raid loot or who ever can get the most use out of it'

Mourtimer tells slotfuture:2, 'I don't think the epic is the issue....it's the lack of progress '

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, 'wit hold on.. thats will be discussed..'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'point system im working with dragonpoints.com now'

Mourtimer tells slotfuture:2, 'they could of moved on with out epic '

Droodles tells slotfuture:2, 'i have to log also, sorry eldoran, i'll check for the issues i miss'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'I think we should concentrate on the guild members who it would benefit the most. Like the clerics'

Ziam tells the guild, 'Aye cleric epics will benifit all the most'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'all us clerics need the same 3 mobs.. except Leanessa who is 1 stop closer.. although i don't know where Daulton stands'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'No again I must disagree. Sorry but epics are too time comsuming to finish in 90 days. So it doesnt solve anything really. No one by nature is going to join raid after raid to assist someone with epic who is new when we have many who have been in SLoT awhile and should go first'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'Yes'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'I think we should concentrate on the guild members who it would benefit the most. Like the clerics right now'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'another guild got their cleric their epic in 3 days'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'sorry slow typist hehe'

Zymmit tells slotfuture:2, 'i dont nessarly agree with the point system, for example... if kei should drop ( a 50 - 75kp spell) that could help the guild but yet if someone outbids me for it because they have more points only to sell it... 75kp can buy alot of stuff for that person or many'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'cough) fools I say'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, 'agreed zym...'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'nay zammit it doesnt work that way'

Reznor tells slotfuture:2, 'went LD...what is current topic'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'if kei were to drop it would be amonst chanters that need'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, 'point system doesnt benefit the guild as a whole... Need before greed theory wont hold'

Zymmit tells slotfuture:2, 'then it is not a point system'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'its a complex poibt system'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'Um u guys are getting hung up on name.'

Hinil tells slotfuture:2, 'read write up on website'

Krislor tells slotfuture:2, 'How does it stand now again?'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'actually nurl has something he wants to propse'

Witdoc tells slotfuture:2, 'have a question when able eldy'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'let nurl speak first'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, 'GD morons'

Zymmit tells slotfuture:2, 'call it loyality system then'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'Nurlaten has Floor'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, 'woops... mistel'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'Looking at moving to a new system, personally tried to keep track of points and it's a pain'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'It's a more need before greed idea'

Mourtimer tells slotfuture:2, 'need before greed does not work'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'I'm not finished...'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'It is only applicable to no drop gear at the moment, applying to tradeable gear will take some tweaking'

Zymmit tells slotfuture:2, 'well we need clerics to get rez sticks.... rogues epics for damage to kill mobz for cleric rez sticks... etc... visious circle'

Zymmit tells slotfuture:2, 'if they get and leave.... '

Zymmit tells slotfuture:2, 'cant help that much'

Zymmit tells slotfuture:2, 'like u said ... how to prevent us being a stepping stone'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'LET NURL FINISH!!!'

Ziam tells the guild, 'My apologise Eldy but someone needs the assistance of an alt of mine. Be back as soon as I can'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'Should a no drop item drop that you can use, you link the current item that you are wearing in that slot, the officers at the raid then take into account your commintment to the guild and raid attendence etc, then decide who gets it'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'thanks for your support'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'I have seen this system work for many other guilds on raids, and all i have talked to leaders and members are happy with it'

Proximo tells slotfuture:2, 'when this occurs, are there multiple peoples oppinions taken into account Nurl?'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'Aye, there are mutiple officers that all need to vote and decide, and should a tie occur, the highest officer there's vote breaks it'

Nadannu tells slotofficers:1, 'we did one night in UP...when Buce got that helmet, it was a good system'

Gorrik tells slotfuture:2, 'may i say somthing about that?'

Proximo tells slotfuture:2, 'okay, so nobody can say... he just doesn't like me...'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'Hope our officers are more mature than that'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'as long as it is based on the actual items th eperson has and who it will be a better upgrade for.. then it works'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'I will say this to that Prox from what I have seen the officers of this guild are very fair and careful otherwise I would guit'

Proximo tells slotfuture:2, 'I would agree with you, just don't want someone who disagrees to have a problem...'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'hehe'

Gorrik tells slotfuture:2, 'if your in a raid and you take that much time to decide who gets what... the raid will take forever.'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'maybe just randoming stuff will be the best'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'You have 8 mins on a corpse, it isn't going to take long to decide, if it does the item rots and we all lose'

Mcmikahl tells slotfuture:2, 'i try to be fair in all i do,but i WILL make the occasional mistake,pls don't be offended by it...'

Zymmit tells slotfuture:2, 'most high lvl mobz that drop good loot have 30 min decay'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, 'some zones aint about loot roting its about spawn time of mobs..'

Aldurian tells slotfuture:2, 'as long as the decision is done quickly.. i have no problems with it'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'good point Ald lol but I feel that the decisions can be made effieciently'

Gorrik tells slotfuture:2, 'all items that can drop in a raid. should be decided on who gets what before raid even starts. if repeats of same item drops. then the next in line gets it. '

Bucephalus tells slotfuture:2, 'my concern would be that the vendor trash and coinage be aprsed out over the course of the raid versus at the end or never.'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'porting ill brb'

Bucephalus tells slotfuture:2, 'parsed'

Aaeodar creates a shimmering portal.

Eldoran creates a shimmering portal.

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'Vendor stuff and coins are used to buy items needed for raiding'

Bucephalus tells slotfuture:2, 'after that then of course'

Shansa tells slotfuture:2, 'for those of you that care, I have been playing EQ for 3 years, two of them with SLoT. Unknowlegeable, sometiimes brash, often reckless have been words used to discribe the various leaders we have had over those years. Unfair has never been used. Recall that you are not the only one playing, and not the only one who can benefit from an item. Everyone puts in time to get to this level. PLing alone cannot get you a 50+ character that is worth anyting. The leaders are as fair as possible. Let 'em lea'

Altarial tells slotfuture:2, 'i have to mention thta i am happy that clerics are always reimbursed for peridot use on raids.. big help'

Mcmikahl tells slotfuture:2, 'thank you shansa,we said i think,even though i am fairly new in comparison to you'

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'yes it is a big help to cleric'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'yeah sometimes when describing me ive heard sexy too'

Mcmikahl tells slotfuture:2, 'well said*'

Shansa tells slotfuture:2, 'sex starved I think'

Reznor tells slotfuture:2, 'dont forget modest '

Bucephalus tells slotfuture:2, 'my reason for brining it up is that over a weeks period recently i went to every raid and group that was avail. got no loot and no money yet have my expenses too and trying to buy some upgrades to increase effectiveness , and i have no problem with making sure all who have to spend for supplies necessary for raid are reimbursed'

Synthania tells slotfuture:2, 'ok I said that in guild so it wouldnt be a meeting topic yall'

Wallorn tells slotfuture:2, 'and CORPSE LIKE Eldy dont forget that hehe'

Mcmikahl tells slotfuture:2, 'yes buce,i know it happens,i know i have done it,and i apologize....'

Stafano tells slotfuture:2, 'back sorry went LD'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'A guild is a give and take situation, don't expect to put nothing into slot and get uber gear and your epic and level 65 from it'

Mcmikahl tells slotfuture:2, 'i sometimes forget that i was ml and log and....'

Aaeodar tells slotfuture:2, 'Kael empty then what will we kill ?'

Rabaab tells slotfuture:2, 'i have never been on a raid and i am lvl 51'

Nurlaten tells slotfuture:2, 'If we are al done, let's pack up and kill some giants'

Eldoran tells slotfuture:2, 'anyone up for Kael'

[A discussion followed on who all was going to Kael.]

Zannette tells slotfuture:2, 'OK I declare this meeting adjourned, please log off.'

[Rumblebore]

Thank you Zann/Lotara

[Synthania]

Aye Thankyou lots of work goes into that.... Trust me I know.